Your blogger has not watched any of the previous 2008 Presidential debates. They are usually dry, Obama skirts the issues, and McCain has done nothing but disappoint.
Not so on Thursday evening. The national debate drew audiences from every corner of all 50 states and it was McCain's final change to show the nation what a maverick he really is. We watched with the Wake County Republicans, who gathered at the Raleighwood Theater.
McCain mentioned Obama's encounter with plumber, named Joe, who wanted to buy the business e'd worked for but saw he would pay much higher taxes under Obama's plan. He was trying to his realize American Dream but Obama told him that he should "spread the wealth around" in the oft-quoted socialist remark. See previous post, here.
McCain would help him keep his taxes low,and added that he would help him buy that business. He insisted his administration would place no tax increases on small business as 50% of business income tax is already on small business, a point that seems to elude Obama.
When Obama rebutted, his statements were full of lies. McCain said Obama wanted to spread the wealth around, and quoted him on socialism.
McCain asked Obama, with this current economy, why would you want to increase anyone's taxes right now?
Obama was quiet and then stumbled and didn't know what to say. Instead of responding, he brought up the huge corporate CEO salaries at companies such as Exxon Mobile. However, that wasn't the point. The point was SMALL BUSINESS, which employ over 80 percent of American workers. Why doesn't Obama get that, your blogger wonders?
Instead Obama responded, "nobody likes taxes. But ultimately, we've got to pay for "core investments'". (TRANSLATION: "I am the Walter Mondale of the 1984 race and I will raise your taxes." Does anyone remember how Mondale did in that election? He won only one state, his own.)
McCain shot back, "Nobody likes taxes so let's not raise them. We need to cut business tax rate in America right now, encourage lower taxes, not 'spread wealth around'", he added to much lively applause and cheering from the Wake County Republican Party crowd, your blogger was with at the Raleighwood Theater in North Raleigh.
The next question was "How would you cut spending?"
Obama stated that the $750 billion rescue package, if structured properly, means taxpayers get their money. Cut programs that won't work. Go thru whole federal budget line by line. However, like most Members of Congress, your blogger doubts that Obama has ever even read the entire federal budget.
McCain retorted, "We must have nuclear power, energy independence, and offshore drilling which Obama has opposed." McCain would cut first via an across the board spending freeze. "I would use the hatchet and then get out a scalpel. We are giving a half a trillion to China. We need to stop this."
He added that he would eliminate subsidies to ethanol. McCain said he knows how to save billions. He's saved taxpayers billions already. Will fight for a line item veto and will fight against ear mark spending.
Obama stated that they disagree on across the board spending freeze. It is a hatchet and he's against. Some programs are underfunded. He added that earmarks account for 1/2 of one percent of fed budget. (Lie.)
Obama then spoke negatively of President Bush, who he said inherited a budget surplus and now has a huge deficit.
McCain: "You are not running against President Bush, you are running against me and a new direction! " Much cheering and applause went up to that statement! McCain used the example of New York Mayor Bloomberg's across the board spending freeze.
"American's are hurting tonight and are angry. Sen. Obama voted for last two budgets that had more in spending than the bush admin proposed so don't (get) on me for the budgets I supported. I have fought against spending and I have fought for reform.
"Tell me one time when you have fought against the leaders of your own party. "
Maryanne Camesano, crowd member from Wake Forest, stated that she loves this debate, can see the anger in McCain's eyes and wants him to get "even madder".
McCain: It's clear I've fought against members of my own party, and I have the scars to prove it. I have long record of reform and fighting for it on the floor of US Senate. Obama's arguments are not very convincing.
McCain: It's been a tough campaign. He wishes senator Obama would have responded to his urgent request to have town hall meetings across nation. Cong. Lewis made allegations that Palin and McCain were associated with 60s church bombings, racism, horrible things that happened and were totally inappropriate and Obama didn't condemn it. Obama has spent more on negative ads than any campaign in history. He didn't keep word when he doesn't accept public financing.
Another member of the audience, Republican David Higgins (left), visiting from the Charlotte area, stated Obama looks like he's been hit in face and "he can't take criticism."
For quite some time, Obama wouldn't respond to the Rep. John Lewis comments about Sarah Palin. McCain kept bringing them up. Obama finally said that Lewis sort of said he shouldn't have said it and that Gov. Palin should have discouraged her supporters who would shout "terrorist" and "kill him" every time she mentioned Obama's name.
Obama: "When people suggest that I pal around with terrorists, we are not talking about the issues. " But Obama's associations ARE an issue. Your blogger's mother always told her that you are who you associate with and if you see someone doing bad things, you should get away from them as quickly as possible. Obama must have ignored his mother's good advice!
(By this time, your blogger was feeling like she was at a high school pep rally. The Wake County partisan crowd was getting rowdy in cheering for their man. )
John McCain is getting mad: "I have repudiated every time someone has gotten out of line." "I'm proud of the people that come to our rallies."
Obama: Changed the subject. Let's focus on the economy...Let's not be disagreeable."
"We need to know the full extent of that relationship" McCain said quoting Sen Hillary Clinton. Then mentioned ACORN, which receives federal funding.
Obama: "Bill Ayers is a professor of Education in Chicago. 40 years ago he engaged in dispicable acts and Obama's condemned them. They both served on a school board together ten years ago. He's not involved in my campaign and never has. He won't advise me in the White House".
Obama went on to say that "ACORN is community organization that goes out and register folks. Apparently some people just filled out a bunch of forms. We were not involved. Out of the blue he added, that while a State Senator, he is proud of helping Illinois get motor voter laws" which is yet another way people can register to vote without taking an oath and without showing any form of identification.
(Your blogger used to be a Wake County voter registrar and in the days before motor voter in North Carolina, each person registering to vote, had to show current identification and take an oath, swearing or affirming that all information was true.)
McCain: "WHILE YOU WERE ON BOARD OF WOODS FOUNDATION, WITH AYERS, YOU SENT MONEY TO ACORN." Obama denies.
Obama sticking to economy. McCain sticking it to Obama.
McCain speaking on Sarah Palin: It's time we have a breath of fresh air and sweep out the old boy network. She understands reform. She understands special needs families. He's proud that she has united our party and has brought out people who have never been involved in the political process before.
McCain in closing statements: Build 45 new nuke plants right away. With nukes, natural gas, flex fuels, clean coal, hybrids, wind, tides, in 7-10 years, we can easily eliminate our depeendance on foreign oil. Time to get started is now.
Obama, says we can reduce, in 10 years, importing from Middle east and Venezula. Expand domestic production, selling oil companies that they have leased - use 'em or lose 'em. We can't drill out way outa the problem. He's for solar, wind, biodesiel, needs fuel efficient car, that's built in America.
Obama: NAFTA: He believes that far too often that Bush administration says, with support of McCain, that any trade agreement is a good one. McCain disagrees.
McCain: Obama says we can "look at" offshore drilling, McCain says we must drill now, not like Obama. He admires Obama's "eloquence" but listen to what he's really saying. He bashes Obama for never having traveled south of our border.
McCain: Free trade with Columbia is a no-brainer. "Maybe you ought to travel down there so you can see what is going on. Maybe you should go or at least read their history."
Obama says he's for free trade, but he kept saying he wanted to "renegotiate" NAFTA, to which Canada, says "fine, we'll sell all our oil to China, then." Clearly Obama is not for free trade!
Obama wants to help automakers who are "getting hammered right now" but that's because they are unionized, thinks this blogger. We should let the market drive the battery cars, not the government. Obama should learn a thing or two about free markets.
McCain: "We cannot restrict trade. That's what Herbert Hoover did and we went from recession into depression."
Excellent debate. McCain finally gave it to Obama. He has an excellent chance to win this election and your blogger will eagerly watch the overnight polls to see if the debate had any affect.
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